Windwalker Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 A CBS News/YouGov poll found that 62% of registered voters said they would support a government program that would deport all migrants living in the U.S. illegally. The poll, conducted between June 5-7 Anthony Salvanto, CBS' director of elections and surveys, said that while the support for a deportation effort was mostly among supporters of former President Trump, some Democrats supported it as well. Trump has said he plans to use the National Guard to deport migrants who are in the U.S. illegally. He has also said he would carry out "the largest domestic deportation operation in American history." Your thoughts? Are you in favor of deporting all that have illegally entered the country? What would be your solution. -Ron Link to comment
wildman Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 This has been tried before and flopped so what make you think it would work now? Nothing more than Trump trying to pull the wool over your eyes. Comprehensive and enforceable immigration policies and procedures is IMO the only hope. Now if congress and the senate would stop trying to up one on each other perhaps this could get done. Always, Wildman Link to comment
Okietiger Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 Like Biden is doing a darn* thing. Biden was the one who stopped the construction or the border wall and has allowed 7 million illegals into the country. Link to comment
lightfootfan Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 Probably a lot more than 7 million. Bottom line is: THEY BROKE THE LAW! Link to comment
Windwalker Posted June 10 Author Share Posted June 10 1 hour ago, wildman said: Now if congress and the senate would stop trying to up one on each other perhaps this could get done. Not a chance I'm afraid/ Dems want an open border for voters once they are granted amnesty. Reps want a controlled border, simple as that. This joke that Joe just did with his executive order, which sadly many are buying into, does nothing but give the green light to the first 2,500 to cross illegally each day. That's 17,500 per week. 70,000 a month, 840,000 a year. It's based off the lie he told everyone, when he said that he needed money and the power to do it. Well magically he has the money, and the power all of a sudden. He claims the border will be closed for 14 days following a week of sustained 2,500 a day. Does anyone, really think, he will close his beloved border for 14 days. He'll never stop the influx. Thank the Lord, we only have 147 more days. 2 minutes ago, lightfootfan said: Probably a lot more than 7 million. Bottom line is: THEY BROKE THE LAW! I think it's somewhere around 11 million, counting the got-aways, that were never even seen. Joe aided an abetted in the commission of a felony for each one that was allowed in. That would make the total charges Trump 94 Joe 11 million. If you had the power, what would you do to fix the crisis at the border. Link to comment
lightfootfan Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 Rebuild the wall, and electrify it so the illegals have to go through the proper channels, Link to comment
wildman Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 Well once they scatter all over the country good luck in deporting them. The wall may slow them down a bit but if you think it will solve the problem you need to think again. Um as I said one up man stuff sure is not helping to get the problem solved. I want to see the days where compromise is not a forgotten thing. Always, Wildman Link to comment
wildman Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 Joe aided an abetted in the commission of a felony for each one that was allowed in. And just what law would that be? Always, Wildman Link to comment
Windwalker Posted June 11 Author Share Posted June 11 Let's break this down so it's easily understood, by others reading this. I think you're already aware of the laws. The Democrats depend on people not knowing about the law, after all, who wants to spend their time reading pages of boring text. Except maybe me. Also while reading, remember, there has been no modifications by congress to these laws (reform) So executive actions are not law, and the action can violate law or constitutional restraints. For reference. This information is taken from Cornell Law School University. As you read this. One could infer that Gov Greg Abbot of Texas, and others, could be liable for giving support to illegals. However, mitigating circumstances might give them some legal leeway. With no help from the federal government, and to relieve stress on state resources, and safety of citizens, they were shuttled to other cities. That is for a court to decide. For the sake of brevity, I will only highlight the things I think pertain to the president, and the heads of agencies under him, that violate the current laws, to answer your question as short as possible. You are free to read the entirety of the immigration laws, definitions, and penalties. It's truly amazing, the number of sections of the US Immigration Laws that have been violated. Either by memo, or executive action. But don't wait for anything to be done, as there is no one to bring charges, since the DOJ and DHS are both controlled by the president. I8 U.S. Code § 1325 - Improper entry by alien (a)Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection; misrepresentation and concealment of facts Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both. 8 U.S. Code § 1324 - Bringing in and harboring certain aliens (a)Criminal penalties (1) (A)Any person who— (i)knowing that a person is an alien, brings to or attempts to bring to the United States in any manner whatsoever such person at a place other than a designated port of entry or place other than as designated by the Commissioner, regardless of whether such alien has received prior official authorization to come to, enter, or reside in the United States and regardless of any future official action which may be taken with respect to such alien; (ii)knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, transports, or moves or attempts to transport or move such alien within the United States by means of transportation or otherwise, in furtherance of such violation of law; (iii)knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, conceals, harbors, or shields from detection, or attempts to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, such alien in any place, including any building or any means of transportation; The president flying immigrants in from other countries without notifying anyone, would fall under this. Biden flew in foreign immigrants without authority, and did so secretly, till it was discovered recently. (iv)encourages or induces an alien to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such coming to, entry, or residence is or will be in violation of law; or (v) (I)engages in any conspiracy to commit any of the preceding acts, or This became a conspiracy under this section, when the Administration brought in illegals by plane from other countries. (II)aids or abets the commission of any of the preceding acts, shall be punished as provided in subparagraph (B). (B)A person who violates subparagraph (A) shall, for each alien in respect to whom such a violation occurs— (i)in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(i) or (v)(I) or in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(ii), (iii), or (iv) in which the offense was done for the purpose of commercial advantage or private financial gain, be fined under title 18, imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both; (ii)in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(ii), (iii), (iv), or (v)(II), be fined under title 18, imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both; (iii)in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(i), (ii), (iii), (iv), or (v) during and in relation to which the person causes serious bodily injury (as defined in section 1365 of title 18) to, or places in jeopardy the life of, any person, be fined under title 18, imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both; and (iv)in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(i), (ii), (iii), (iv), or (v) resulting in the death of any person, be punished by death or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, fined under title 18, or both. (2)Any person who, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has not received prior official authorization to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, brings to or attempts to bring to the United States in any manner whatsoever, such alien, regardless of any official action which may later be taken with respect to such alien shall, for each alien in respect to whom a violation of this paragraph occurs— (A)be fined in accordance with title 18 or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; or Biden and Mayorkus both know, that allowing illegals to walk into the US through gates, holes in the fence, or open areas, is not an official point of entry. When that occurs, the proper response is to close the borders for control. Ouch, 7 million years in prison, is a looooong time. (B)in the case of— (i)an offense committed with the intent or with reason to believe that the alien unlawfully brought into the United States will commit an offense against the United States or any State punishable by imprisonment for more than 1 year, It doesn't take a genius to have "reason to believe" as above, that an alien who illegally enters your country, from a terrorist enemy country, to assume that person is, or could be, a threat. (ii)an offense done for the purpose of commercial advantage or private financial gain, or (iii)an offense in which the alien is not upon arrival immediately brought and presented to an appropriate immigration officer at a designated port of entry, be fined under title 18 and shall be imprisoned, in the case of a first or second violation of subparagraph (B)(iii), not more than 10 years, in the case of a first or second violation of subparagraph (B)(i) or (B)(ii), not less than 3 nor more than 10 years, and for any other violation, not less than 5 nor more than 15 years. That's all I'll provide right now. It gets boring, and depressing to see that so many laws can be broken by one person, with no accountability. Please point out any that you feel our administration didn't violate, that I highlighted (bold). Link to comment
wildman Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 Yup I can see your points. Now I ask is former president Trump guilty of violating some of these as well? If Biden should be held accountable as you suggest should Trump be as well or is he above the law? Should border sate governors be held accountable as well? Last but not least I think former presidents and former border state governors may have violated these as well. I like it when you point these things out. Always, Wildman Link to comment
lightfootfan Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 Looks like cured tobacco to me, (Cut and dried) Link to comment
wildman Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 3 hours ago, lightfootfan said: Looks like cured tobacco to me, (Cut and dried) Yup and tobacco has been shown to cause cancer. Always, Wildman Link to comment
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